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romney campaign believes they got a big gift today from none other than the vice president joe biden when he said that the middle class has been buried in the last four years. four years when president obama has been in charge. >> bret: carl, just down the road in denver. thank you. some good news. chrysler is reporting the best september sales in five years, 12% bump. g.m. and ford were either up slightly or flat. toyota surgeed 42%. volkswagen was up 34%. private real estate service says home prices jumped 4.6% this august. that is the largest year to year increase in more than six years. the dow was unimpressed today. losing 33. the s&p 500 gained one. the nasdaq up 6.5. still ahead, another border patrol agent gunned down in infamous spot. is the president playing politics with pending layoffs? inside the richie center now, the home base in spin room. where special special be broadcast from and where i'll sit in debate with brit hume and joe trippi. this is the spin room, where a lot of media will be sitting throughout the debate. 3,500 members of the media credentialed for this event
. >> romney pounded joe biden for stating the administration' goal on a trillion dollar tax hike on those making more than 200,000 a year or family 250,000. >> people in the middle class has been squeezed or buried as the vice-president said. and romney's remarks, inelegant. 47%, he renounced it once and for all. >> completely wrong and i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. >> and hoped with those remarks, romney would lay those to rest and close the door on that. to prevent that the democrats were pumping out attack ads to keep it very much. >> bret: carl cameron, on your last point, almost everyone talking about wednesday's debate says mitt romney did pretty well or won, but how he won, that's the question, as carl mentioned, that has entered the post debate spin cycle. >> governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. >> stretching the truth or worse, that's how mitt romney won the debate. it's now a familiar refrain from democrats. echoed by sympathetic media outlets.
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. >> those happen to be the words that the distinguished vice president of the united states mr. joe biden. no, don't boo. he is the best thing we've got going, guys. >> reporter: now denver has always been big for this president. in 2008 is where he launched the hope and change in front of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the first debate by standing next to the president. romney is hoping for that and more as he takes half the spotlight tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that part of the story. >> reporter: romney prepared for weeks. 57% for the latest gallup poll think the president will win the debates to only 33% for romney on this evening main topic the economy economy, romney has an edge. 50% say things will improve if he becomes president to 35% who say they will get worse. if the president is re-elected
charles say, oh, it's just biden. there are people who look at joe biden and say, listen, he really identifies with middle class folks. he can be gaffe prone, but he also can be good. his speech at the democratic convention was arguably very good. setting the table for that debate, we'll have plenty of days to talk about it, but bouncing off that sound bite? >> he is good. that's not the point. the point is that if you were to string together a couple months worth of his comments such as the middle class has been buried under the obama administration, i mean, these are things that i think other people if they said would paint a very frightening picture to people of the administration. but he is allowed to continue to do this. so the set-up is, we go in with the lowest of lowest of lowest of expectations of him, expecting him to say even crazy things, or things that are factually not true. and so it's going to be very difficult for, i think -- it will be difficult for anyone to say he has done something that crossed some line that he shouldn't cross. >> bret: i want to end on this on
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